Todd says good turns a blind eye to justice and love. Todd completely and purposely missed answering the question. Indeed Todd is morally bankrupt. Creation is almost certainly not true and those claiming otherwise typically fall back on faith or poorly constructed philosophical arguments. The Master's Seminary ( from Grace Church) 7. Todd says that Hitchens has broken the first three commandments, Todd guesses that he broke the fifth, and then he walks Hitchens down the are you a person? Does that sound like you sir? Hitchens answers no. In a halfmile turn right onto Lamoreaux Dr. He acknowledged, does not refute, that prophecies could be changed, but he only relies on the sheer number of prophecies as convincing evidence. Todd Friel studied to be a pastor for four years but neglected to actually get saved. (see Romans 16:1-3, 7; compare 1 Corinthians 15:6). He is the author of: Jesus Unmasked, Judge Not, Slaying the Lust Dragon, Stressed Out and How to Keep Your Kid from Backsliding. Friel does not accept evolution because he believes it is random chance, and thus insulting to our intelligence. For some reason, the critics of John MacArthur keep invoking the name of arch-heretic, Charles Finney, as though he were an expert on much more than splitting hell open. Todd says the gospel is God's prearranged plan for his glory. Notice that in the first tweet (above), Union University denounces The Dallas Statement. Todd Friel played the role of a group facilitator at John Macarthur's recent Strange Fire Conference (Oct.16-18 . Macarthur is on TV and on 1000 radio stations daily. Do you doubt what these millions of people once believed for thousands of years? Is the universe designed? He is a good god." He is the author of: Jesus Unmasked, Judge Not, Slaying the Lust Dragon, Stressed Out and How to Keep Your Kid from Backsliding. 101 evidences for a young age of the Earth and the universe, In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood, The Wonders of Creation Reveal God's Glory, Seeking God in Science: An Atheist Defends Intelligent Design, Evolution Under the Microscope: A Scientific Critique of the Theory of Evolution, Rethinking Darwin: A Vedic Study of Darwinism and Intelligent Design, Mind and Cosmos: Why the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception of Nature Is Almost Certainly False, The Darwin Myth: The Life and Lies of Charles Darwin, The Mystery of Life's Origin: Reassessing Current Theories, The Origin of Human Nature: A Zen Buddhist Looks at Evolution, Darwinism Under The Microscope: How Recent Scientific Evidence Points To Divine Design, Adam and Evolution: A Scientific Critique of Neo-Darwinism, Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry, New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Movement, Louisiana Baptist University and Seminary, Answers in Genesis Dawkins interview controversy, Affirmations and Denials Essential to a Consistent Christian (Biblical) Worldview, Answers in Genesis-Creation Ministries International's Statement of Faith, Atheists Outline Their Global Religious Agenda, https://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Todd_Friel&oldid=2524447, Pages using DynamicPageList parser function. The audience responded with loud heckles and deservedly prominent shouts of "boo! Wretched ( hosted by Todd Friel ) 9. . Todd says God already knew beforehand that the people would choose to sin and rebel against him and bring the world into disease, destruction, and such. Todd claims that God said he will save you so he can get all the credit. First Question redirected to Todd. Todd Bentley, who once claimed God told him to heal a woman by slapping her in the face and who was deemed unfit for ministry by a panel of pastors in 2020, tweeted out "I'm going." Greg Locke,. Albert Mohler (who opposed Social Justice vigorously as far back as 2011), gave a thanks but no thanks review to the Baptist Press, saying that the document has resulted in productive conversation (if you call screaming hysteria about the supposed white supremacy of John MacArthur productive conversation). David Friel, S.T.D. Of course, Todd does not provide any resources for this, but his claim is easily refuted. In less than a mile, turn right onto Stoney Creek Ave, just before the road bends. Th Gospel of Jesus Christ says this is for his glory." Living Waters Publications (LWP) acts as an online store for WOTM. Where did the laws come from? Children in grades K-3 are dismissed just before the sermon and go up together with the teacher to UL3. Todd has three children, one wife and a dog. Throughout his 'responses' to Dan, he repeatedly uses the presupposition that his narrow version of God exists. The gospels do not say who they were, where they came from, how old were they, what did they say, who did they tell, were they all sober and mentally functional, and such. This page was last edited on 3 February 2023, at 02:03. The organization produces a television show, a radio show, books and tracts, an online course in evangelism, small-group training courses, and a website. Since then, Todd has combined his pastoral training and media skills to host Wretched Radio and TV. Amen, I gather. Unfortunately, the discussion did continue, with fellow panelist Phil Johnson describing Moore as narcissistic and panelist Mike Riccardi affirming MacArthurs contention regarding Moores preaching. The burden of proof is on the theist to provide proof, and not once has Friel met it. What an amazing god.' The conscience is testimony for a creator, it speaks to us that we have done wrong and we must get right with the creator. Souls saved. Union Seminary has used The Dallas Statement as an opportunity to advance their agenda of denouncing Scriptural Inerrancy, a cause for which John MacArthur is most well known. How's this for "missing information." This is one of the contradictions, Dan recommends, Todd asks Dan how many fingers he is holding up. After all, justice means not punishing homosexuality. Just kidding. Was it the flappers or the little spritzers that shoot water out. What if the bible is accurate, (sharing a quote Romans 1) 'For the wrath of God is revealed from the gates of heaven, all in godliness and righteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. There is something for everyone. Todd points out that Baptists are the leading group with the highest divorce rates. Dan answers correctly: four. Or Jupiter? Justin Peters ministries 10. He spoke the world into existence, once you have the missing information. Turn Right onto West River Drive. The Red Sea parting beautiful. Currently, Todd is host of Wretched, a daily television show and radio program on Sirius FamilyNet 161 and many stations across the country. Dan was a bornagain, biblebelieving preacher, song writer, and a missionary. He has written for Christian Chronicle, Christian Worldview Network, has Debated Dan Barker (Pres. As for Stalin, Pol Pot or Mao none of them justified their evil deeds for their lack of belief in God or religion. Todd moves on to discuss his "proofs" for God, starting with Creation (which he calls a nobrainier). Furthermore, theres another truism thats undeniable. For what can be known about God is plain to them because God has shown it to them from his attributes, his power and divine nature are clearly perceived ever since the creation of the world and the things that have been made so that they are without excuse.' ago. Not once did Todd present any proof of God. Dan retells several horrible acts committed by Christians against each other for simply disagreement. Todd Friel is the host of the nationally syndicated Wretched TV and Wretched Radio programs. Hitchens answers it may be highly probable. However, there are several big problems. Repent and trust. The next question is another sleight of hand by the New Testament authors of Psalm 22:16 which does not say anything about nails or crucifixion, but the literal translation is mauled by a lion. (A Hermeneutics Primer), Decisions, Decisions (Knowing Gods Will), Terrified (How to Witness to Anyone), Beyond the Shadow of a doubt (You can trust the Bible). Todd uses Elisha, a man who had God murder a dozen kids, as an allegory for the Bible. Summary. [14][15][16] Nightline aired the debate online and included a short two-segment summary on its May 9 broadcast. Theists take drugs (or more drugs depending on the state) than nonbelievers, but Christianity is suppose to transform people to becoming better people however, this does not appear to be the case. Friel welcomes Hitchens and tells him that they will play a game of what if it is true? where Friel will tell Hitchens a story and Hitchens will respond as if they were true. How many people in this room believe in the existence of the god Thor? Hitchens replies according to you, he didn't. He has authored numerous books, academic journals, and magazine articles. What is sweet about a story of a bully telling a little child "you cannot play with this football, but I can"? Atheism makes no comment on origins, including the universe. Dan brought up several valid points, such as the burden of proof is on those making the positive claims. Todd points the finger at atheists who go around and telling people that God is not all good and not worthy of worship, but Todd says we are not good at all. Todd says, "The God who spoke the world into existence in six literal 24hour days, would step off of his throne, come down and became one of us instead of crushing us like he bugs that we have been in behaving that way rebelliously toward our king, but instead he came down as one of us and died to save us so that all creation from all of eternity can go 'what a good god. His best tool is to repeat a refuted fallacy so many times that he hopes people will ignore the rebuttal. He said she had done much for many. Just because Todd thinks Exodus 34 talks about God first does not mean this is how the development of god came about. Todd says that sounds foolish too, unless you have the missing information from earlier. Because last time, you did a one-word association, the guy wrote a book about it. Union Seminary has used The Dallas Statement as an opportunity to advance their agenda of denouncing Scriptural Inerrancy, a cause for which John MacArthur is most well known. God help you through trials and tribulations This is hardly true for either Muslims or evangelical Christians, who also supported slavery in other cases, plus other unworthy causes like opposing women's suffrage. boo!". Now, heres the thing. Now there was a desert religion that started in the middle east, and they had a wargod named Yahweh. If I was a betting man I'd go all in to say this guys motives are to gain YouTube fame, maybe sell a few books and make a bunch of money rather than to actually evangelize. [19] In addition, some Christian debate viewers accused the moderator, Martin Bashir, of "being biased towards the atheist side. Privacy Policy and Todd has one wife, three children and a dog. Originally from Minnesota, Todd now resides in Atlanta, GA with his wife. To be sure, there are Pauline passages that preclude women from speaking in a gathered assembly of Christ-followers (see especially 1 Corinthians 14:34-35; 1 Timothy 2:11-15). Todd's objections to the evolution of the eye is an, Dan opens with "Hell is not 'reasonable justice.'" Being born on 14 July 1963, Todd Friel is 59 years old as of today's date 24th February 2023. He is also the author and producer of over two dozen Bible study courses. Cowering in fear of McKissic at each SBC annual conference (knowing he will use his ethnic minority status to deem them racist in the media), denominational leaders have more than once felt coerced to bend to the will of the charismatic and Baptist preacher. Dr. Craig listens and responds to a Christian talk show reaction to his New York Times interview. Todd Chiaravalloti. Todd says this is why the missing information is important, because there are a lot of hypocrites in the church (if fact, Todd says most of the followers of Jesus are hypocrites). Director of the Vocation Office for Diocesan Priesthood. He's the type of clever deceitful Satanist the Bible warns about. Todd moves on to address Newton and light, and wonders how we are the only creatures who found use for light. There is no doubt zero, zip, zilch which side of the Social Justice aisle those who deny the Inerrancy of Scripture find themselves. Obama gave a speech in Cairo, stating that Islam has "always been a part of American history", Friel stated that Pres. This is exactly the style of legendary embellishments. This ministerial milestone is being celebrated throughout the year by his syndicated radio broadcast Grace to You, most recently last week at Grace Community Church at a Truth Matters Conference on the sufficiency of Scripture. Unborn humans saved. I haven't heard of the last one, I'll check it . Office Phone: (610) 785-6235 . "[19], From prime-time hearthrob to Hollywood freak, "FamilyNet to confront culture with 'worldview' programming", "Attacks on faith are an opportunity, says Cameron", "Christian Reality TV Show wins "Best Program" and "People's Choice" Awards", Bashir, Martin; "Prepare for a Conflict: The Nightline 'Face-Off' No-Holds Barred Battle Over the Existence of God"; May 7, 2007, Correction to article; "Evangelist Challenges Atheists to Debate on ABC"; April 29, 2007, "Rational Response Squad vs. Kirk Cameron and Ray Comfort (excerpt)", "Kirk Cameron Proves That God Exists Just kidding", "Comfort and Cameron Well-Intentioned but Unprepared, Christians Say", The Way of the Master Radio Program website, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Way_of_the_Master&oldid=1090826192, This page was last edited on 31 May 2022, at 16:03. He specifically said "A BELIEF in God that partially flew those planes into the World Trade Center." Why, people believed these things very sincerely for thousands of years. Eddie says they are not contradictory to us, but they are for God in his nature and goodness. Can you do all things? In addition to the likes of Alistair Begg, Tony Evans, Joel Gregory, Jimmy Mellado and Ralph West, Mary Hulst and yes, Beth Moore will be preaching. Todd's second proof for God: the conscience. Todd begins by explaining he did not "do his job right" because Dan keeps saying Hell is not reasonable justice and the crowd keeps applauding. Atheistic Evolution - we came from nowhere, we believe in nothing, we are going nowhere. Sermons by Todd Friel The Biblical Cure for Anxiety October 19, 2014 Todd Friel Anxiety, Counseling, Cure for the Troubled Soul, Perseverance John Scripture: John 14-17 * Note: Audio quality problems are not the fault of your audio device Details Listen Todd Friel Conference - Session 3 October 18, 2014 Todd Friel Belief in God makes a no moral difference in the world, it has not . Also, Eddie asks Todd to comment on the Bible was not considered "infallible" until the 18th century. Who will pay for the SBC abuse reforms long-term. MAGIC). Friel, rather than using rational arguments, uses his crafty words alongside his charisma to appeal to audiences in order to gain support. Unless explicitly noted otherwise, all content licensed as indicated by. Erica Cooper preaches for Martha Stearns Marshall Day at Milledge Avenue Baptist Church in Athens, Georgia. But if he cannot help, then he is not allpowerful. July 24, 2022 from Answers Magazine. Todd concludes you have to believe real hard to believe that nothing became something, that it blew up and everything. Instead, he starts off with a story of a man named Naaman who came from a country called Ahram (northeast of Israel). Arminians or so-called Traditionalists, like David Allen at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, have largely stayed away from the document not because they disagree with the general premise, but because of what they perceive to be overly-Calvinist language regarding the sin and guilt of Adam. The only difference between you and me is that I believe in one less God than you do. This ranks right up there with quoting Lex Luther to Superman, quoting Rosie ODonnell to Donald Trump, and quoting Karen Swallow Prior to anyone with common sense. Technically, it wasnt John MacArthur who was most responsible for The Dallas Statement, also known as the Social Justice and the Gospel Statement. MacArthurs name, however, stands out as hovering above the rest in notoriety. [4] Currently, it has been released up to season four. In the next tweet (immediately below it), they deny the Bibles inerrancy and infallibility. Hitchens does not think it is an act of kindness, it is a tyrannical act. In a halfmile turn right onto Lamoreaux Dr. If Friel wanted an example when an abortion did save a mother's life, all he would have to do is spend a short time doing actual research. Todd's Case for Atheism - There Isn't One, Dan begins to describe what he once was: a bornagain, biblebelieving preacher, song writer, and a missionary. [7] Comfort retracted the video and claims upon learning that the banana is a result of artificial selection by humans, and that the wild banana is small and unpalatable. Todd also says that the story of Naaman is a true story, but asserts no REAL historical evidence to prove this. He was alive again shortly after. Todd says he did die and we celebrate it called Easter, which has been going on for thousands of years Hitchens adds in to no effect. He was supposed to come back during the time of his listeners, that was a direct promise, and he did not keep it. How about considering that the. The whole debate can be watched here. Friel answers Well, that is not part of the game show., Round Three: Bio. Atheist Eddie Tabash debated Todd Friel on March 26, 2007 in Daytona Beach. Instead, they bash at Christianity over other religions, but they cannot disprove God. You're almost done! Love, righteousness, justice, and such are different human concepts, and society deems them all good. . Finally, Todd asks Eddie a which came first question. There are many different denominations of Christians, and they believe they have the correct interpretation of the bible while the others are wrong. Additionally, Acts clearly indicates early women Christ-followers did prophesy, including the daughters of Philip the evangelist (Acts 21:8-9; 2:18). Or Zeus? They'll spend an entire class period, arguing . Todd Still is the dean and the William M. Hinson Chair of Christian Scriptures of Baylor Universitys Truett Theological Seminary. Joseph." [1] From January 2006 to November 2008, he hosted the Way of the Master Radio show, a twohour daily Christian talk show, with both Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron as frequent cohosts. Dan says likewise, Todd has failed to prove the existence of his God because there is no evidence for this god. Todd says if that did happen, wouldn't it be an act of kindness? Hitchens answers no, it takes away his free will and gives him no choice, but too bad, the son already died and now he [Hitchens] is committed. Todd says he is not here to scare the audience, but they should be horrified of Hell and the just God who will judge everyone. April 1, 2021 from Answers Magazine. The other two havent denied it, they just wont give comment. The church will be on your right. Todd openly admits that his story "theistic Creation" sound foolish as well: something created everything out of nothing. A Biblical Response to Anxiety. Divorce rates are the highest amongst Christians, especially bornagains. Continuing to repeat the lies and strawmans will not help your case, in fact it hurts your case. [18] Although numerous Christians claimed that Comfort and Cameron went to the debate "well-intentioned but unprepared", the two were also widely commended for having a very "positive demeanor" during the debate, in strong contrast to their opponents. Todd asks Hitchens if he had ever heard of Charles Spurgeon? That is what Todd and his ilk are arguing for: magic. All are most welcome to join us as we do so, including John MacArthur. Todd intentionally and dishonesty misguides the audience what evolution actually addresses. On the other hand, if a person took a left turn and surprised God, then God cannot be omniscient. 131 Northto exit 91 West River Drive. The punishment should fit the crime. So start in prayer, and you are sure to be revived and refreshed by the great group of speakers at Teach Them Diligently events this year. Christian listeners may not have understood the solid arguments, and instead may have just believed that Hitchens was against God. Todd says Spurgeon came across a nonbeliever who fights and wars against God, such as Hitchens, and asked him if the reason he was so against God you should follow him home. We seek to connect Gods story and Gods people around the world. Office Phone: (610) 667-5778. . Belief in God led believers to fly planes into skyscrapers. Round Two: If someone stops me and says 'I have a few questions for you' and I say 'Sorry, I'm in a hurry' who would you be imposing these questions? Friel repeats the premises what if God created you and has the right but Hitchens repeats himself By what right?. Even if MacArthur were to be correct in his assertions and assessments, in his disparaging remarks and condescending comments regarding Moore he fails to follow the very Scripture he proclaims. Muslims have lived in the US from the beginning, mostly as African slaves, which includes some who fought in the American Revolution (mostly for the Americans, including Moroccan mercenaries in French service), so Friel is just wrong about that (not surprisingly). One might be surprised to see who exactly comprises this coalition against the Dallas Statement. Furthermore, Paul exclaims that in the Lord woman is not independent of man nor is man independent of woman, for in Christ there is neither male and female (1 Corinthians 11:11; Galatians 3:28). If God knows for certain that Hitler, Pol Pot, or the Turks will commit genocide and mass bloodshed then God should not have created those people or simultaneously create people who will prevent them from committing genocide. What sins could bacteria cause? There are equipping hour classes: Toddlers at the end of the left upper level hallway, K-2nd inUL2, 3rd-5thinUL3, Jr. High in UL1, High School with the Adult Equipping Hour Classes in LL1 or LL2. How tragic that millions of people think they . Wallis a spiritual advisor for both Presidents Clinton and Obama finds himself now in perfect unity with Calvinisms most famous leaders in a bizarre turn of events. Thabiti, who has benefited greatly on account of the color of his skin thanks to the patronage of Mark Dever and the paternalism of The Gospel Coalition Plantation who are always in pursuit of using minority voices, is one of the most vocal political voices in evangelicalism. 133,560 views 2 years ago Wretched TV and Radio are daily Christian programs hosted by Todd Friel. He changed his mind.long before we understood electricity or the weather, our ancestors used to look up in the thunder and the lightening and say 'What is that!?'. Dan can say that he believes in unicorns and can describe them by quoting the unicorn text, but it is not Todd's job to refute Dan, it is Dan's responsibility to prove his unicorn beliefs. Dominating the world? Terms of Service apply. WOTMR was broadcast on various local radio outlets, internet streaming and on Sirius XM Radio. Todd already does not accept the testimony of alien abductions, but the number of people who claim to have been abducted is much greater than 500 (perhaps more than 1,000). Todd begins to plead with Hitchens to admit that it would be an act of kindness, but Hitchens does not give in and his answer remains the same. Did Todd skip ancient history class? Todd says he has interviewed thousands of people who do not believe the Bible, and then discusses Peter who announced to a crowd of Jews "You crucified God. For example, evolution is not random or chance. However, Christianity and religion has made no world moral difference some would argue the opposite. It is very likely that the 500 is just a number written on paper, simply propaganda. Todd Friel hosts the syndicated Wretched TVand Wretched Radio programs. Burns, whose brother assaulted a police officer who he is himself is on record many times disparaging law enforcement, is a well known change agent for the political left. Nothing Created Everything: The Scientific Impossibility of Atheistic Evolution, those who do not believe in Jesus must therefore hate Jesus, poorly constructed philosophical arguments, Keeping Ray, Tod, and Kirk honest because they don't know how to, https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/04/11/how-to-frustrate-an-evangelica/, http://www.womensenews.org/story/campaign-trail/041028/late-term-abortion-saved-these-womens-lives, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZB0lLIcXIA, http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dover/kitzmiller_v_dover_decision2.html. The church will be on your right. Wallis, unlike Mohler, hasnt changed his positions. That is why God is justified in killing any of us any time he wants to, that is why we die. Download This Badge. And I talked to my mother who had gone to seminary and she said, "Julie, you're going to go crazy in seminary. we all deserve to be hurt by God because of justice. Todd begins by sharing that earlier Eddie made a joke that he flew to the debate by flapping his arms. Wallis, on the other hand, has given no apology for forming a financial alliance with the globalist billionaire and leftist financier. And yet, Finneys name keeps getting brought up repeatedly in an effort to convince evangelicals that the latest Social Justice fad isnt really a fad. What exactly is the missing information that decodes the enigma of immaculate conception? He is the author of five books and dozens of Sunday school resources. If Todd is willing to believe anything simply because a person is willing to die for something, then as Eddie already said Todd should become a Muslim. Todd Friel and the Wretched crew have three simple goals in their "Life is Best" campaign: 1. "Todd Friel's Greek primer DVD is a great way to "get your feet wet" in not only Greek but also English grammatical studies. It is simply a lack of belief in any god(s), nothing more, nothing less. In fact, the opposite seems to be true. In less than a mile, turn right onto Stoney Creek Ave, just before the road bends. Freedom from Religion Foundation), Eddie Tabash (Council for Secular Humanism) and many others . Simply labeling it as so does not alter reality to fit your personal beliefs. If one prophecy can be faked, then it's possible all of the prophecies could be faked. because you are a Christian? TODD FRIEL: You know, actually, and before you answer this, please think carefully this time. 96 West to exit 31B to 131 North. Send comments and feedback to Eric Black, our editor. Todd asks Eddie and other atheists "why do we die?" Dan's speech will be in normal font with Todds response in italics. Not only did Todd ignore the question, but he also missed the point. This opening was barely a debate and more like open preaching a very bad start. In less than half a decade, the movement known as New Calvinism or the Young, Restless and Reformed, has reverted from a promising growth of Calvinism to an issues-oriented Social Gospel movement. Session 2 Jesus in the Old Testament Part 2: Session 3 Sunday Morning A Biblical Response to Anxiety: 131 South to exit 91 West River Drive. However, Naaman had a skin disease, probably leprosy. A less personal, more insightful question Friel could have put to MacArthur would have been: What roles did women play in the respective ministries of Jesus and Paul? In order to answer biblically, MacArthur would have had to respond, Any number.. Perhaps something involving a real person named Naaman happened similar to what is said in the Bible, although the inclusion of a miracle makes the Bible's account extremely dubious. However, it sure ought to make you think. However, after questioning his religion he slowly became an atheist, concluded God does not exist, and discarded faith. If he lied to his boss, he could be fired. Friel then asks Hitchens, What if there is a Judgment Day and God makes you account for every word, every deed, how do you think you will do on that day? Hitchens responds with I would ask by what right? This ranking of Protestant seminaries includes Methodist, Presbyterian, Wesleyan, and Episcopal denominations, and non-denominational schools. However, in the eyes of God (the big guy), it is very offensive, and so much as lying about your weight is punishable by burning for eternity. Todd then asks which evolved first: the eye or the brain? There is no evidence at all that the universe was created in less than a week. He has authored ten books and is the producer of over two dozen Bible study courses. Sunday October 19 9:30 am-11:00 am: Todd says the difference between Islam and the flying guru and Christianity are eyewitness accounts. Can We Really Do All Things Through Christ? For example, if he lied to his daughter, not much harm is done. Theists cannot agree on the nature of god and his moral principles. Also, seeing is believing, but not knowing. Round Four: It portrays you as a dishonest and deliberate liar. If someone wants to discover the right side of the discussion, it might be helpful to survey the long list of opponents to this call for Gospel clarity. Todd answers the bible says we will all die and give an account for our sins. College Seminary and Associate Professor of Systematic Theology, Theological Seminary. Friel says in this debate, Dan tried to tie Friel up in several knots, but Friel did not want to take the time to address them. Do you want to be descended from a monkey?
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