If youre a youth or high school coach your #1 goal has to be making the kids that you work with better overall athletes And people. Kids ask all the time how do I get faster and I tell them you have to run fast. I've seen teams full of the tiny fast kids and if a ball is hit to the fence it can sometimes take 3 kids to get the ball to home platethat's just not going to cut it when there are 14u kids that are 6'0 and 160#'s that can strong arm it all the way to the plate. This is complete BS. . If I had to guess, I'd guess he got recruited as a pitcher. If you see a coach training athletes to maintain the posture required in maximum velocity you have found the right place. Im a personal trainer, and Im totally with you! Once the weather allows we will do some out door parachute work to work on that time. It also drives me crazy when they compare dunking to sprinting. The 60 - especially with the split times being taken at PG - is a good measuring stick. Understanding what college baseball scouts are looking for in position players in terms of height, weight and skill can help student-athletes better focus their school search on programs that offer a level of competition that is the best match for them. The biggest hang up recruits or parents have is that while a recruit might be really good at the high school level, if they arent playing against college level competition, it isnt much help to a coach. Each time he focused and trained for only one thing, for example he trained hard and only focused on his 60 time for one of the showcases, only focused on getting his pop time down for another showcase. You must be signed in to continue. After a few searches on the internet and not finding it, I would appreciate if you could tell me what you mean by adding FAT to your posted times, thank you, "I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate", http://www.aisports.com/COMBRESULTS.HTM#RB, Powerlifting Workouts - Training Journals, Post Your Pictures and Introduce Yourself. When you block a person, they can no longer invite you to a private message or post to your profile wall. I just begun to train my 6y and 10 months old son on the sprint for his soccer gamme. New PR for overhand velocity. I think the later bloomers have bigger jumps at the HS ages. There's your proof. Why does the chart not continue on to age 50, 60, 70 etc. It has been speculated that in his prime, Usain Bolt might have been able to run a sub-4.0 40. I specifically tell him that if its not fun, he shouldnt be doing it. Strength relative to your body weight matters. I had several in the 4.0 range including a 10 year old @135lbs. Heres my issue. Your supposed time translates to around a 4.1 40 yard dash which would break Deion Sanders . RJ, Exact same scenario for mine. Do you know of coaches/programs/locations in the northern IL/western suburbs area that train to the points you make in the article? It amazes me that this is still not understood (or is it all about not wanting to share the success of the athlete?). I do this every year so teams that I have for three and four years it allows me to see who is developing, who is maturing biologically the fastest (hitting puberty), and who needs work and what he needs. But wait, this kid will run a 3.8 by the time hes 15 right? You can also search past threads on the topic. I would encourage you to have him not work with anything lighter than a drop 5, going from a drop 10 to a drop 3 has been really tough for many of the smaller kids. Rigghhhhhht. My kid actually ranks super high in a sixty but doesn't run the bases all thatwell. I also understand that the origin of the 60 is that it matches home to 2nd base. Like you said in the article, kids rarely fully sprint during practice, so am I on the right track by having his do speed and acceleration work on his off days? I have been lucky to coach the boys in football and lacrosse for 11 years. ( bigger stronger and much faster) I was told the only way to post a better time is to do another PG showcase (The WWBA and the other PG tournaments do not have a timed 60 run only PG showcases). * The result is your age graded percent. As in life, we are trying to be the best version of our self. When it comes to midfielders, D1 college coaches tend to focus their recruiting efforts on shortstops, rather than athletes who strictly play second base. But when i see that at th end of th first training session, he gained 0.7 seconds on 15m sprint (3.16s, 17km/h), it puts me in an optimistic mood. Therefore, sprinting at max speed is the best way to train. This is a link to my Youth Development page (I need to update it as I have a lot more links and info to add just need to find the time). Hi, Therefore, no sleds, no parachutes, no resistance, no sprint training against the wind. My 3 yr does nothing but run around my 8,200 sq foot facility. I dont like how this article reduces sprinting to technique, if that were true, everyone could be fast. Tell me where to turn so that a good coach would look at my daughter and maybe send her to competitions among children 7-8 years old. You might as well be wearing ankle weights (dont wear ankle weights either). If you see guys running with parachutes behind them, turn around and walk out. Your email address will not be published. T.J.s dad, Tim Kane, is the head football coach at Plainfield North High School. Hi Tony, I just found this great article after I timed my nine-year-old son and the 40 yard dash. (Save the 400m for a later date) . 20m or 20 yard Sprint Test Results. What skill sets should individual position players have? I am not a track person, but if hes that talented what can I do to help him as he continues to grow and keep his speed. Curious if people think summer travel and showcases, along with private coaching, will be enough for the right exposure. His team still has that 4'11 and 80# kid, so your son is not miles behind. I've run across lots of D1 recruits that don't even have a PG profile, much less a bunch a great numbers posted. 63 & 64 mph!!! -- Vince Lombardi, On another note, how fast a kid can run in a straight line doesn't tell me anything about what position he is going to playjmo. My son is 10 and he raced twice last Wednesday posting 15:51 in his heat and then 14.91 for the finals in the hundred meter he runs again tomorrow in the district finals. Tony Holler is a member of Illinois Track & Field Hall of Fame and Co-director of Track Football Consortium along with Chris Korfist. My Daughter just turned 10 and her time is 5.53. What does a D1 baseball pitcher look like? I would also mention that if you have the opportunity to see players race against each other at the 20 yard distance, it's helpful. Softball message board with discussions on softball hitting, softball pitching, coaching youth softball and where you can get softball drills and softball tips. 3s, just on the basis of their performance at showcases, since there was little record of HS play. When you say the school has a poor program I assume you mean the coaching is not from a very experienced coach and the team is not very competitive. Maybe check your tape next time just to make sure you didnt measure 40 feet instead of 40 yards. 1. Thank goodness great coaching minds have put the kibosh on that. Average 100 Yard Dash Time by Age. Not only will it enhance performance, but it will dramatically decrease injuries if the athlete learns how to sprint. All she cares about is being fast, oh and loving Jesus. My wife is a doctor. But not in weightlifters, even when they have accidents involving massive amounts of weight. ". Whats new with Kinvents third-generation KForce force plates? In my opinion it is better to play at a school with a weaker program than to sit the bench a a school with a strong program. Her time splits if anyone is interested for comparison were; 10 yard- 1.8 seconds. Nelson Gord, former D1 baseball athlete and NJCAA coach, shares how athletes can catch the attention of college coaches in the video below. You can then take these views & see how it translated to the pro game after they signed by looking at their stats. For optimum effectiveness, kids must sprint two or three times a week. It also gives the player their home to first time. Because This is a eight-year study. Anyone ever watch the little guys make the fake swing and start running to 1st base while the LL coach is yelling at them to "go throughgo through"? The 40-yard dash isn't a track event. Boys in the same age group run about 4 to 5 seconds faster than the girls. 2. Occasional candies are OK. We make sure he gets enough sleep time (10 -12 hrs) and eats 2 hrs before the sports actvities. I'm guessing a 7 second 40 is not doable for 99% of anyone over 60. 2.79 on grasssix foot four. I can tell what kids know how to block/hit/tackle by watching this drill. My only disagreement is the multiple sport comment. Actually she's not horrible at 14 as she runs anywhere from 3.05-3.25 as a Catcher. Some coaches do not care about it and others do. And if you're teetering between getting a college offer, or making the league, the 40 yard dash can be the event that pushes you over the edge. Speed relates to many athletic endeavors that utilize speed and power. Very easy way to test for athletic ability and strength. This is the fastest 10-split by any combine runner in my database (starting in 2003). Coaches are looking for the best fits for their team. You've seen video -- he's usually thefastest guy on the field, but he needed, and still could use, work on starting as well as basic work on form. Most importantly, the mechanics of proper stride, arm swing, start position, body angle & several other factors have now been added to his run mechanics moving forward. CF with a big bat.certainly didn't hurt himself in front of the scouts with that performance. My kid has been training for tennis and running since he was 2.5 years. If you are 6.5, then they probably start getting interested in how quickly you can get down the line, especially if you are a left handed batter. http://www.gregorydoublewing.com/youth.html. When kids compete for an hour, theyre never sprinting. For as much as team sports value speed they sure dont seem to put kids in the right environment to develop it. Oftentimes you will see the scout wander over to the first base side and get his stopwatch ready when the kids comes up to bat. . Look at the difference in his timing in the last two months from 26 seconds to 22 seconds. An ERA between 2.00 and 4.00 is considered good for high school pitchers. There are times when he doesnt feel like going to the club and we let him decide his schedule. 200 meter dash: 27.89 Heres his 8th grade PRs from this years track season: I found this and have not used it yet but it may be a starting point. She is running a 6.4 second 40 meter consistently. You may also have some early video & can look at progression through the years. Most kids (other than the absolute stud outliers) need showcases/travel team exposure, even if they're starters in strong programs. I love the fact that he always encourages relationships between sports and the betterment of kids. Assume ready position behind line and start stopwatch when first foot hits the ground after start. Ive seen 58 11 year olds who are studs but never get significantly better. I Reckon I Am 11 And I Can Run 32kph in speed not distance. Im a college sprint coach and my son plays multiple sports and he likes to train and get faster. Oh, and BTW. https://www.infosports.com/baseball/arch/1166.Htm. Take a look at this link and excerpt included below. I have four children all of them are athletes. Division 1 catchers swing the bat well and usually can hit for power or average at a high level OBP: .500 Slugging: .600 (minimum 2 at bats per game) Pop Time: 1.95 and below consistently (verified by a neutral source) ERA below 2.00 Division 2 Height: 6'0" Weight: 180 lbs. A 2020 study tested the . http://www.gregorydoublewing.com/ATHELTIC_SPEED_TIMES_FOR_KIDS_Age_5_to_14.docx. We are what we do. Track & field can be a life long sport, if youre not doing killer-mentality training at age 14, thus wearing out parts. When accelerating, ground contact times are much longer than max-speed sprinting. Chris Johnson who ran a 4.24 seems to be an anomaly as he is the only . Thanks 2019Dad. The 10m fly is a much better predictor of success than the 10m start. Contact their program and go watch their off season workouts. He is widely considered one of the fastest defensive backs of all time and the NFL combine does not run in pads. I have limited space as we share a practice field with 4 other age groups. Recruits need to show the strength, speed and general athleticism to make the jump. Concur with above comments; spend time finding out about the local regional club teams. High school football players: Learn why your 40-Yard Dash time is slower than you think. . DD who isn't a speedster was 4th fastest at 3.18. 7.Throwing Velocity measured by the use of a radar gun The athlete makes a maximum of five overhand throws with a regulation softball, on flat ground. 3.80 meter long jump My assumption is that thereis a significant increase in participants within the same graduation class over time to their Jr year. I use 10 yard sprint and the 6 Tire Zig Zag to really look at my linemen as they operate in smaller spaces. The 20-yard shuttle (or short shuttle) tests an athlete's lateral quickness and change-of-direction ability. The formula is (weight*200) / (40-time^4). We have several MLB organizations that pay us for accurate information. My guess is that if you were to measure only the control group (only the players who posted the 7.85 average for the 2021 class) through each year, you may see numbers closer to the blog's. You didn't even come remotely close. Im sure shell plateau big time at some point but its fun to go out and do once a year. Im a believer in specificity. Every sprint must be less than five seconds in length. Good luck to you guys next week, hope he hit's it. The scores to the left are average times and the score to the right is the best score I have seen in that drill. To calculate your age graded percent (often abbreviated AGP or AG%), we take your time and divide it by the world record time at that distance. You still need to showcase and attend camps in my opinion. 60 Yard & 30 Yard Dash. He won all the races he ran last Wednesday so I know hes fast I was just wondering how fast he is, once again thanks for the information. Alactic training is maximum intensity work for less than ten seconds followed by enough rest to repeat the effort on the next attempt. I would guess my son is a late bloomer by about 2.5 years, at 5'9, 130lb now. The tables presented here "age-adjust" running times for runners in the 31-70 year old age groups, both male and female. He is the standout player in every sport that he plays and just wants to get better. What are college baseball scouts generally looking for at each position? What people tend to forget is that a 40-yard dash time of 4.5 or even 4.6 seconds is blistering fast. Video must be analyzed. maybe you mean the 30 yd dash, in which case a 3.41 is actually really fast. I think you could look at those and establish a baseline or average. Or youre lying. And, perhaps the best reason to do this is as follows: little Johnny is a heck of a blocker and perfect for the offensive line. Im glad I ran across your article, I will make sure to share. Wicket drills (running over mini-hurdles) is a staple of sprint training. Depending on body type this would be possible2018 (june bday) went from a 7.83 (Feb 2015) as a 15yr old to a 6.96 (Aug 2016) as a 16yr old. If I had to do only one test for athletic ability it would be the bear crawl. Next some stats of what they did in high school. 20 yard bear crawl is a good measure of body strength, agility/dexterity, and core strength. All times in article are handheld. The sprint to first base test is also over 30 yards, and involves running a maximum sprint from home to first base. 95 sec age 11 90 sec age 12 85 sec age 13 80 sec age 14 75 sec age 15 73 sec age 16. These former college players I hired still love the game and they're normally very interested in helping young players with athleticism, desire, and a dream, like they once had. 0.5 sec per year from age 11 until 15. That is pretty darn fast. No Practices? Age 7 40yd 7.05, LJ 86, SB Throw 886, Turbo Jav 273 You get a feel for when they added velocity &how their physical growth tracked along with that. OMG I am now running a 4.80 and im still 10. Baseball also commonly uses the 60 yard dash in testing. First number is age in years that these guys held their world records at, back in 1975. He has not been able to go to another PG showcase yet and is upset that his time is "stuck" at 7.2 with PG on the website when he ran a 6.6 this past January at another showcase. I dont want to over train him. My take on home to 1st is that scouts tend to collect this information on those kids they think it may make a difference. Tim has always promoted my speed training. He and his father want him to play running back. My understanding is that MLB average home to first is about 4.0. As far as times go, if your roster is set, then it really is only relative to your team. Any specific YouTube training videos anyone would recommend for short burst, form? 20 yard- 2.9 seconds. I dont think fast was ever used to describe T.J. as a young athlete (thats a polite way to say that T.J. was slow). Since youre herewe have a small favor to ask. I raced someone who could jump a half foot higher than me, he took like one step and gave up. The tables presented here age-adjust running times for runners in the 31-70 year old age groups both male and female. We had three kids that were all fast, but when we put them head to head, the results were different from their individual 20 yd sprints. Deion Sanders at the 1989 NFL combine ran a 4.27 second 40 yard dash. 3.9-4.0 you are looking at a 4.9-5.1I ran a 4.46 electronic in high school at the Nike combine and my 10 yard split was 1.50. If the player is not willing to put in time away from the instructor, you are mostly wasting your $$. Also forgot to mention. At the college level, the game is much, much faster. Out of 30 kids we had 3 in the top group and ten in the next group. That is, there are far fewer players attending PG showcases and having a 60 time recorded at the younger age than the metrics reported in the older ages. Compare yourself with the chart below. If this kid ran a legit 5.7 40 as an 8 year old, I have ocean front property in AZ you can buy. I think it is very interesting to look at some of the top HS draft pick's PG profiles & pages when they have a deep history. i ran a 3.41, i think my time in the 40 wouldve been pretty good but they only measured the 20 what would b a good time for the 20 yard dash if u just turned 29 weigh 280 lbs? Has nothing to do with youth times, but my son's teammate on his college summer team ran a 6.34 and 6.40 sixty at the league showcase on Tuesday. Give me a guy who runs 25 mph, and acceleration will be learned quickly. While all measurables were taken at each showcase the home page of the player shows you the best times/speed in those categories. 3.5 years 36 seconds Training and maintaining proper posture along with spinal erector strength development have made our team FAST. Results via Freelap and visual reinforcement are key. Coaches will often push and pull things to train acceleration. If youre interested in becoming a sprint coach, start by attending the Track Football Consortium IV December 2nd and 3rd. I was not fast 4.8 40yd. Regarding running times, velocity, pop times, and scouting reports. I don't look for just straight line speed numbers, I use a variety of methods during evals. Since September Ive been seeing them 3 times a week. Average Ht/Wt & 40 time in DI, D2 and D3 Average 20-yard dash time for high school softball is approximately 3.5 seconds; NCAA softball is approximately 3.1 seconds. There isnt any time to train. The grind has nothing to do with sprinting. Great post. They recommended that there is no special sprint training at the club. We just can't report what we don't see. Not once did I pay to play. I agree for certain positions, not for others. Times have changed. LMAO apparently they didnt catch that Chris Johnson and RG3 are running 4.2s NOW. I do not. The pressure is evident even in practice. average 40 yard dash time by age chart female. Im all for playing everything. She's home to first in 2.8 and deadlifts 230. Record two runs to determine fastest time. 7.83 was as a 14yr 8month (my mistake in the prior post). Check out Claytons 40 times in the graph below. | At the high school level, the 40-Yard Dash is usually timed by hand, meaning a person with a stopwatch clocks your 40. Smoke, he met with the coach once, then worked out maybe 4 times on his own. The fastest 60-yard dash was run by both Herb Washington and Mel Pender, who ran it in 5.8 seconds in 1972 and 1973, respectively. The time differences were evenly distributed between 0. Any sprint more than five seconds trains something other than max-speed. HELP WANTED: Players / Teams / Coaches / Tourneys, www.fangraphs.com/blogs/scouti0-80-scouting-scale/, When the Game tells you that you are no Longer Welcome. Look for a sprint coach who believes in alactic training. Had 8 of my 31 players in the sub-5.5 range, and about as many of my linemen at the 6.5+ range. At 18 I was our fastest pitcher at 7.2, but most position players were well under 7. If it is something extra good, we follow up. As usual Tony tells it how it is with no sugar coating but with incredible insight. Mindless weight lifting, grueling aerobic workouts, and multiple repeats of 200 meters have no place in sprint training. I'm sure the kid deserved the attention he ended up receiving, but I'm guessing the parents got more out of the early scores than anyone else - "Little Jimmy was in the 98% percentile of all pre-teens with a pop time of 2.5". If you see the sprint coach meticulously recording times and giving athletes instant feedback, you have the right place. I am not sure about the average improvement in the 60 each year but I know that you can expect to get faster as you mature in high school. I am member of US lacrosse and football USAA certified coach in both. Thanks for this great poste. Both measure lateral speed and quickness. And I dont have an amazing start. Before kids learn to multiply and divide, theyre playing soccer against teams from other towns. Those stats get "stuck" on the players PG page and they won't go away until you replace them with another showcase. I know he is fast, but we'll see what translates down the road. Very interesting comments but do you mind explaining to me what you mean by FAT.? JavaScript is disabled. Thank You for the article. Is that good? 40 (2) = Second 40-yard dash time per NFL Network coverage 40 (O) = Official 40-yard dash time from NFL Network coverage and NFL.com 10 (1) = First 10-yard split time per NFL Network coverage This is from a coach who has timed 100's over 20 years. 200M 23.71 FAT My point is that freaks can play 2-4 sports. Sprinting must be taught and practiced. We live in Palm Beach, Florida. Washington offered her based on softball and basketball. I dont have enough training awareness to recognize things he could do, other than just saying go faster. You must log in or register to reply here. 7.0 before training, 6.81 after a month or so. to be fast, you gotta go fast, Coach Kim Goss delves into the importance of elastic strength training in helping injury-proof athletes against non-contact lower-body injuries. If you want to maximize your kids chances for success, teach them to sprint because speed kills, and you dont get fast by running slow. mike vernon royal household; are there snakes in gran canaria; shooting in laurel, md yesterday. Video analysis is a part of every reputable sprint program. Edwardsville won the Illinois 3A (big school) title in 2015 and placed 2nd in 2012, 2014, and 2016. It factors weight into a player's 40-yard dash time assigning a premium to fast times run by bigger, often spaner, running backs. What skills do D1 college coaches look for when recruiting first basemen? Thanks again for another great article Tony. Last week, when I told a track coach to bring their football coach to TFC-4, the track coach replied, We have a better chance of developing cold fusion.. I tried training him for sprinting, but he mostly wants to have fun on the race track and wants to race whoever is jogging on the race track.
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