Glory(Pride) Gold-(Obtaining personal financial advancement from the ministry) Girls-(giving in to self serving sexual pleasure from Women) I think that older men with less testosterone can dodge these bullets. Thats a fact. 16 The latter do so out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. No one even asked. for those of us in the cheap seats, it might be wise to be prayerfully patient & turn the hobby horses out to pasture for a bit. Im off to bed. I never been to CC but I read on many different blogs about them and I would like to share the Scripture from Psalm 2:11-12 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Which is precisely why I asked for suggestions several, several times. He boasted of a vast media reach. You bring him up every time you post, because you are his disciple. We all know that we are all sinners saved only by Gods grace. Andy, now you are not being honest in fact you are being purposely dishonest. A statement on the church's website reported the news: "On April 3, 2014, Bob Coy resigned as Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, effective immediately, after confessing to a moral failing in his life which disqualifies him from continuing his leadership role at the church he has led since its founding in 1985." And they are legion. . Im still waiting! 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"People were really, really hurt," says Colleen Healy, a Broward resident who began following Coy in 1995. @pierreduelz The duration of absence from leadership should be commensurate with the size of the flock he shepherded and the duration of the corruption.. I suggest you would be considered a loving person for doing the same. Michael, Concerning your #131 post In the aftermath of what happened to me at a CC church with a serial adulterer (most of you know of whom I speak,) I have maintained off and on contact these past ten years with 4 of the women who also told this pastor NO when he propositioned them. His name was Bob Coy, and until the previous year, he'd been the most famous Evangelical pastor in Florida. It is just people like we PhoenixPreacher-ites who dont follow the rules that leave. 4. I wish I could be more positive, but we are living in the last days when there will be a great falling away from the faith, which the Lord has prepared us to expect before He returns. Andy, I will not play your game. The Peter comparison is not unreasonable. He is trying to restore his family. What does numbers have to do with anything? I think its a fair request. Michael isnt a Calvanist. or are you just repeating here say? I watch and listen at work, family gatherings, wherever it might be the way married men will talk to women who are not their wives, the sexual jokes, the sexual innuendos, telling private stories about themselves and their wives. I figure that is why you are now circling your wagon around Coy. Whats the big deal, so he diddled a few broads, werent they consenting adults, how can anyone judge, maybe they had an open marriage, comman people relax its only sex, it only last a few minutes, what is that, like less than 5% of all the other things hes doing for the church, leave the guy alone, I dont see any women complaining, didnt King David have a few dozen women standing in the wings waiting for their turn, and how bout Solomon, a few hundred to choose from, well dont read their works in your Bible then, and isnt every pastor guilty of adultery if you take Jesus words seriously, that to look upon a woman with lust youve already committed adultery, using this criteria shouldnt every pastor in America be fired, give the guy a break, hes a good teacher, everyone strays a little bit and has a little strange on the side, many wives know this and realize it doesnt mean anything, just a little release. Anonymous #564. Newnham also wrote that Coy was taken off the board membership page for the Calvary Chapel Association, a ministry started by the late pastor Chuck Smith. Chuck Smith didnt like sharing power with the congregation which is why he started his own brand of doing church, his own denomination in essence, that consolidated the Power into the role of the Senior Pastor. In other words, on any given day what looks like a bunch of anonymous posts are actually not. It hardly makes their convictions garbage.. Because of this, I am no longer listening to Reach FM. I like to know everyones sin here and blog about it. Ill be blunt. The devil is a liar and trickster but God is the truth and his will shall be done. Which one of these statements do you not agree with Flynn? It will take much longer possible years for healing with his family but it is worth it and will take work. Is the devil chained up right now? The duration of absence from leadership should be commensurate with the size of the flock he shepherded and the duration of the corruption. Anon, I cant really say how I know. Blessings. "Those men cannot call sin sin," one 20-year veteran of the church complained to the publication. You chose to join in I did not initiate the conversation. There was no word of any affair, nor his family leaving him. Youre going to find many branches of the faith represented here which adds to the richness of what takes place here. I think they had about 10 so far. He was the son of Joe Gibbs, a five-time NASCAR Cup Series championship winning owner and Pro Football Hall of Famer. I have documentation. If I were in sin, my church would handle it and those who needed to know would know. Oh, Florida of little faith! The church only loses if they go to the punishment and exposure message without hope of recovering a brother. But Newnham says the pastor still has more to answer for especially because his sources say Coy has been trying to mobilize investors to start a new church. What's wrong with the House of Bishops' proposed same-sex prayers? Debbie, Larrythe next few days are going to be very difficult for you. That is a bummer about Chet. Calvary Chapel will always be my church, I never went there thinking that my pastors were saints, I went their to learn how to become a better person, how to live a faithful life with God, how to try and become more like Jesus TRY because no one in this planet has walked without sin except JESUS. Michael- The attacks you are receiving remind me of the attacks I got when I was at that church attempting to do good. Your medication seems to wear off right before bedspeak to your physician. Over 24 hours from when the story broke, one mainstream media has posted something. MLD wrote: so you put up a man who has been dead over 400 yrs and argue with him. E, that mindset makes your continuing sin worse as you then are aware of what you are doing is wrong but do it anyway. Was a 2nd announcement made today at services? [6] Please click here to learn how. Thanks Michael. I did not make Bob Coy have sex with women other than his wife. Its interesting that it was Jesus who made it personal when in essence he said; you can condemn this woman if youve never sinned, I think specially the men need to search their hearts and ask, have I ever committed adultery, whether the actual act or lusting in my heart, have I ever viewed pornography, the scriptures say to the young man, flee youthful lusts The sexual desire is stronger in our youth, so if youre a man whos 65-70 years old, you probably wont have a problem or temptation in this area, your problem might be with pride, or something else, If youre a woman you probably cant relate to someone who has a problem with pornography, since men are visual creatures and women are feeling oriented, thus a womans problem might be more with gossip or romantic fantasies like they portray in these Harlequin novels, and no wonder these pastors are so idealized especially by women. Hugh if you are going to MOCK at least read the Bible before you mock people who do actually read it. WIKI article is pretty good. Just so you know 80% of the Church worldwide holds this position except in American Pop Evangelicalism. My walk with God is mine alone and that is why, respectfully, its none of your business. The Acts 2 passage has everything to do with why you misinterpret Rev 20 to be Jesus sitting on Davids throne as a future event when Peter said it was a present event. im sad. Their lawsuit was dismissed this past July. 2y; View 3 more comments . Im not married. Youre saying he was fired which is inaccurate. Now you complain about being put into a box. [sad to say but true in my experience] Bob could easily do 6 months to a year for that and be right back at it in no time. Hugh. I feel bad for the wife and kids .BOB COY another Tiger Woodshey kids your father is that womanizer right..the media will have a field day. Is it all false because he fell short. Others stayed in Smith's original system. The Bible is inerrant. 8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great citywhich is figuratively called Sodom and Egyptwhere also their Lord was crucified. Daughter, We live in Coral Springs and have attended some of the more conservative churches in the area Reformed Baptist, Anabaptist and a John Macarthur affiliated church. Did he leave the country? Just saying. Martin Luthers Disciple ~ Take heed proud guy, least you with all your proud grace fall also. Not only of church/pastors in my past, but unfortunately, I know too well the pain Diane Coy is feeling having been there myself. Christ the Rock suffered its own scandal a while back and I heard that Pastor set up camp at a near location. 2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD. He convicts us of sin and draws us to the Savior. Youre a special woman. He got the idea from Andy Stanley to do satellite churches. What is HIS selfish and SATAN centered motive for this exposure?????? ty10124 1 yr. ago. A rich man has freedom to embrace the world. I listened to it again and its as powerful as the first time we posted it. Problem is it turns into pride and a business instead of a ministry. http://www.calvaryftl.org/about/pastorsstaff/pastors/# This is public and common knowledge and has been discussed and admitted from the pulpit I have been present when Fidel and Connie (Johns wife) admitted it to an audience. THAT pastor contacted the board. Active Word, a media ministry that distributed Coys Bible teachings on radio, television and digital media outlets, has also been suspended, according to a statement from the churchs board. If you are blessed, you may find one to lay your weary self at for a while. you did well last night, you were being played, and you still shown like a bright light in the dark! Something wrong there. In 2006, gubernatorial candidates Charlie Crist and Tom Gallagher personally pleaded for Coy's endorsement, though he declined. Is there a lawsuit coming? So this is a serious question. So if you have a problem with that, take it up with God. I still attend CCFL because I believe that I can help some of the younger members. Bob asked me to remove that message, but, I completely agree. Baptized ! Michael has his little posse of the usual suspects, always looking for a lynching, like circling vultures at the scent of a wounded sojourner, depart from me for I never knew you, you workers of iniquity! Are the words those of your ilk will ever hear unless you repent, you shall know them by their fruits, and your fruit stinks! Make your own application, Bob wrote: Ive studied John Macarthur for quite some time and know him to be a wolf in sheeps clothes. He really should have thought this one out. The worship leader left a few months back with no explanation. "He's contacted many former associates to try to get funding. But to be honest, I dont think eschatology should be a dividing line doctrine that some folks put it into. Diane was the first pulled out of the car. As I made comment on those who did, others jumpe in and made each a Luther discussion. Truth and reality may arise for all involved. Just ask Michael Newham, hell avoid the question as he points his stubby little fingers everywhere else but at himself, or Alex G, he at at least might be more honest and tell he you hes viewed porn and probably worse. The Holy Spirit has come to glorify Christ and to apply the saving work of Christ to our hearts. well is that what you did? Which church did you go to in that was a John Macarthur affiliated church? I am not particularly attractive and it never ceases to amaze and disgust me when men will make a fool out of themselves in front of me and horribly, in front of their wives. Leaders who fall into sexual sin are generally never the same once the sin exposed, even when repentance and remorse is demonstrated. Try and keep up:). we were gone by then. I have no thoughts about his church pastors in that arena are a dime a dozen they can find some other untrained funny man to take his place.. And I am not a Calvinist. -- Give, Connect, Learn --Give | bit.ly/2ZUprZxI'm New | bit.ly/3kvFBAwMessages | bit.ly/3kzDStWUpcoming Events | bit.ly/3jg3N9W All of the women he did this to were also demonized as he tried to cover his sin. Did you answer the questions? Through that rehabilitation, I became a better man. Lori, thank you for sharing your story. Ask your leadership why they arent telling you the whole truth. So Blessed to hear this,what an awesome speaker,God Bless You Diane! From what I heard Coy had a dozen or so businesses which were probably all ministry related. Recognizing we serve a God of second chances and that our hope is in Him, the statement concludes, the leadership, staff and members of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale have joined together in prayer for Pastor Bob and his family during this time of healing.. Changes things greatly. The Asst Pastors are pretty weak with the exception of Bill Schott BUT he is a teacher and not evangelical. I have no idea if they were paid for , or what the arrangement was. People were asked to make pledges. Coy wouldn't be charged over her allegations. How you define orthodoxy isnt the final word on the matter, is it? "Never.". Stop this! Many comments by those who attend CCFL. Below is a summary of our core beliefs which are developed in more detail in the Westminster Confession of Faith, the Westminster Larger Catechism, and the Westminster Shorter Catechism. Read his book about the Kingdom. Mega-churches always have such a high profile for scandal. I can just throw out stuff also. Andy, OK, you go with that but to hold your position you have to call Peter a liar in Acts 2. High profile and untouchable positions can only lead to catastrophic collapse like this. One harsh standard for othersthen grace! and mercy! and not the same standard when its time for the pastor to pay for his sins. Were not going to speculate on the blogs right now, he said. Will they be allowed? Lets you and I join in prayer along with all the others that are doing the same thing for Pastor Bob and pray that The Lord will deliver him from this horrible thing. I hear the CC folks come on hear and proclaimwell were all sinners and only Jesus was perfect!yet they give Jesus-like powers to their Pastor rock star leaders in the form of the Moses Model where the Senior Pastor has all the power. I should not even have put that but I couldnt resist it, him and his 10 million dollar estate. maybe you could pray for everyone and call it a day. He confessed to his moral failing and is focusing his time on repairing his relationship with God and his family., My headline says resigned b/c thats the info I was givenquite different than fired, The official press release says resigned. Thats worse than not knowing you are doing wrong. finding out our churches and pastors had failings and unrepentant sin. I dont care if its Billy Graham, Chuck Smith or John Calvin himself who came back from the dead if they should appear and teach contrary to the word of God, they are to be rejected. Pastor John has always publicly spoken about his sins of adultery, Im not aware of Fidels but I am aware of others, regardless this isnt about the leaders more so than the entire body. Punishment is for both, the guilty person, and for all the onlookers to witness the aftermath of disobedience. So here is one for you. Im still waiting to see if you disagree with Luther on anything. Exodus 20:14 You shall not commit adultery. Other verses you should delve into are Leviticus 20:10 , Proverbs 6:32 , Matthew 19:9, Lets Look at Galatians 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. The fruit of the message or from the teaching is different than the personal fruit if a person does not heed that message, so the fruit I am talking about, are the hearers, those that heard the message and were saved by the message, and were edified and encouraged by the message, Im talking about those who grew by the doctrine they were taught and not only did they hear the word but also put that word into practice, and if they did then yes, we will see the fruit of that doctrine as they grow to also produce fruit! (Flores was eventually convicted of sex with the minor.). My heart goes out to his wife and kids. Sexual sin is appealing, addictive and readily available especially in this internet age and when the relationship at home is not following Gods plan and design (and yes, it even happens in homes of church leaders) it gives way to justification for sin to prevail. One of the gals from Saturday Night live attended- I forget her name and they really used that to their advantage-she was mentioned. A day with DC having make-up applied by a makeup artist. We arent really transformed in a manner any different than Mormons or Atheists or others who make a decision to be more or less moral in our lives. Do we expose a fraud or recover a brother? I will leave you alone to work on the Acts 2 passage it destroys the future 1,000 yr earthy reign. on and on ad nauseum ] The real power wont be shown by succumbing to any of these dangers. Pray for Bob in this very dark hour for many. Give Mercy and you will find mercy ! They know it is wrong of them to commit adultery if they are married, they know its wrong to steal, wrong to hurt other people etc and they know its right to give money to help the poor and they know its right to be a good Samaritan etc. Its as though the biblical gospel is not interesting or compelling enough; its as though the biblical gospel does not comport with increasingly American ideas of libertarianism, guns, stand your ground, etc. Many of the next generation of customizers started their career with Coddington. Nice try. But I suspect the board is not relishing any sordid details; on the contrary they feel compelled to cover for the reputation of the christian church. Sharon Leone (Diane Farr) is Vince's wife and the Chief of Division 1501 on the CBS original drama, Fire Country. BTW, Flynn, that might prove 3 1/2 years of tribulation, not 7. who have been chosen ACCORDING TO THE FOREKNOWLEDGE OF GOD THE FATHER, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance. And there they go, a lamb is not a lion a lion and a lamb are the same lol, anybody want a pretzel? But I got it from someone on the inside. Which sin are you guilty of? I hear bible preaching and teaching being translated into military and sports metaphors all the time. I have proof. The vision of this church is multi-sites everywhere all under the umbrella of one man. Its not that I am questioning you, just that what you say rings truer to what I have heard in the past. You sound too often like a bored office worker that just likes to argue with people online. You will have new people to blame for the fact that your pastor couldnt keep his pants on. Tell me why you need to be the first w news rather than respecting the church body and unity of faith and respecting that as a congregation, we need to be together to receive our family update. Who is the pastor of Calvary Chapel Miami? You must have wrote it after I closed the thread. it is right there in your favorite Rev 20 passage. I listened to the message at calvary today. I hope they reconsider that vision in light of his failure. Hugh. Shortly after resigning, the disgraced pastor moved to Chattanooga, Tennessee, where Calvary Chapel has another affiliate church. Yet Andy made about 30 comments after saying it wasnt worth talking to me. Did anyone see Fireproof? There is more going on at this church than just this infidelity. Please provide verse my bible does NOT say bar code. Too many people look at their pastor or sr. pastor, vs.the congregation being pointed to the Lord. The church was more concerned with non-believers.. come as you are to meet Jesus than protecting their own sheep. I would say it is unfair to make a comment that since Barbara has not found a church she is misunderstanding the Bible. Lots of questions now. I go by erunner as I dont know if people would know who I am if I went by Allan so even though my name is known I stick with the moniker. If this is untrue or these are unlawfully exaggerated claims the. I felt that the constant comedy instead of Bible teaching, was the sign that there was always something wrong there. The abuse lasted until she was a teenager, she told the cop. I have to agree. Bob Coy is very intimidating and you cannot cross him. The p0rn habit is insatiable, gotta treat it like a heroin addiction and view it as just as dangerous to you or it will eat you alive if you want to be married and be a father to your kids and if you want to remain a public pastor teaching against such things. Ive had so much calamity the last few years that a standard curse would feel like a vacation. There is a reason God forgives us. To enjoy our website, you'll need to enable JavaScript in your web browser. I said way at the top that Bob Coy can be restored as a brother. She was approving the operation paperwork at that moment. That whole situation made everyone pleased. And the leak from the board was no doubt insurance against a coup detat of bob-loyalists attempting to unseat the floundering-shell-shocked and in charge for the very first time board. Time for dinner. You got that right, MLD is probably 300 lbs., sitting on a big leather sofa eating popcorn as he writes, with three cats purring around him, while his wife yells from the other room, get off the computer and take the trash out as he answers in a moment, I gotta write one more thing, I have no sympathy for adulterers, may they rot in hell! And then he prays to himself, Thank you God that I am not like that Bob Coy!. Michael, We don;t argue we chat from different view points. If a Pastor is sinning in his personal life, how can I have confidence in what he says from the pulpit? Did she die? 3. It is the second-largest megachurch in Florida, according to the Hartford Institute for Religion Research. Hugh, With MLD leading the way with his self righteous smug attitude!. I am sorry for sounding so bitter. Leadership is not a right, its a privilege. True repentance bears fruit. This isnt about me, and by making it about me, you bear false witness and sin yourself. I would hope all even those closely associated and even directly hurt would dig deeply to not bring more disappointment to Christ by acting in a Unchristian like manner. Didnt God provide for this with the whole concubine thing. Isnt it the Lord Jesus that transforms lives and grows places of worship? [2] The department assigned the case to Det. Or was it because he was caught? The Bible is clear on how to handle all this so there really isnt much to argue about. [5] It is acclaimed as one of the great expressions of automotive customization. (1 Cor. If you think it is to avoid war, famine and sickness you are wrong. "It was attractive on both sides, for the Christians who hadn't really gotten into the drug culture but were younger and wanted something new and for the people who had come through '60s free love and drugs and needed some stability.". That has calmed my spirit a little. is the 1000 years? Would the owner of this blog if he was a Christian be relishing and rejoicing in the fall of a Christian pastor, if he was a Christian? I am a crazy renewal charismatic and a covenant theologian but NOT a Calvinist. Coys teaching was always excellent. Let this be a sign to you, that if by this time next year calamity has not befallen you, to teach you to not malign Gods work and kingdom! I did. According to numerous sources and documents we have obtained, Coy has already been dismissed by his board. this too I am speaking from personal experience. In searching for that video- I see it was in end November 2013- only 4 1/2 months ago- not graduation..even worse.. His wife was beautiful and she still had competition for her husbands desires. No one is perfect, thats why we are just human flesh. Thanks for sharing that Laura. If that board doesnt see evidence of Bob relinquishing his power over this injured and vulnerable group of people in Ft Lauderdale and beyond, then they will have no choice but to release enough of the details to protect the Body from a fallen pastor who has no idea how dangerous he is to a people he claims to have loved. Because, they know where you got your doctrine, and they know going in, all the errors and twists of interpretation. WHAT HAPPENED THAT YOURE STILL SINGLE, DO YOU STRUGGLE WITH SEXUAL ATTRACTION TOWARDS THE SAME SEX, OR ARE YOU TRULY A EUNUCH FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD? King David was not called to lead a church or ministry. So that Until the Whole World fund raiser was never used for a new sanctuary as planned. The crime scene was scandalously unprotected. There was a time many years ago that many good families were leaving. Daughter- There area few Pastors there (wont mention names) that have taken on BCs mannerisms and style. I struggle with hate for it, and my own self image because of It. As an attendee of this church I am shocked and disappointed. Some of these churches/groups that are so antithetical to anything that could possibly be considered ecumenical may in fact be unable to discern wheat from chaff. To all the negative comments He is a man. That is precisely what I was working my way to. Does Satan have a body? 18 Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. In fact, he says Capitol Records paid him to party. Pure speculation on my part. He quit the cocaine and strippers, began training as a preacher, met his wife Diane, and moved to South Florida. He didnt go after anyone who left. Just saying. Back 160 yrs ago Martin Stephan led the Lutherans from Saxony to America. I understand the severity of this. To "avoid substantial injury" to Coy's former employer Calvary Chapel according to the court file. Well, thats simply not true either and not quantifiable. In light of that, the apparent glee/self righteousness voiced by some above/previously sickens me. Why? To critics such as Newnham, there's only one reason to fight for a ruling like that: to hide from churchgoers the amount of cash the church gave Coy to go away. Well my friends it will not be too big anymore. I cant find it on the backend. Confession is step one. MacArthur isnt a wolf in sheeps clothing, hes just a self-righteous pious a-hole from the pulpit, but at least he tows his own line in his personal life. Your turn. And we now have media Pastor?? If not then the whole board and staff needs to repent ( in ways appropriate to their position and level of participation and approval) . Serious people interpret the Bible and serious people disagree. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time. What usually happens in these situations is that after the offense is noted and documented the person is given the option to leave voluntarily or be forced out.