Ive learned there is an unwritten rule in the SBC: Dont criticize an entity head. In 2020, Dates, married with two children, was among a number of black Christian church leaders to cut ties with the Southern Baptist Convention over a statement from the denomination's Council of Seminary Presidents denouncing racism and critical race theory. I also want to suggest that Chicago, and America, needs churches that are developing and reproducing young pastors, that we become more intentional about it. Charlie Dates named successor to James Meeks at 10K-member Salem Baptist Church of Chicago. But some have grown frustrated with their position in a denomination that remains largely white (African Americans make up just 6 percent of Southern Baptists, according to Pew Research Center). Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. The congregation has grown into one of the largest black churches in the city. One of the benefits at Progressive is that the operations of the church and systems and structures of the church, the day-to-day operations, are free to move independent of me. Photo courtesy of Progressive Baptist Church. They are to us what the Electoral College is to the United States: a body that no longer produces what it originally promised. Charlie Dates of the Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago, one of the pastors who have already severed ties, said the November statement was "the last straw." "When did the theological architects of American slavery develop the moral character to tell the church how it should discuss and discern racism?" That Salem is a loving church ready to work. The specter of racial animus and theological arrogance was giving way to a new era of Christian leadership, I suggested. Progressive has asked me, when the time comes, to help them to find their next pastor. If Charlie Dates indeed used a racial slur (just last year), that does call into fitness his ability to do any of the above. Ill tell you: abolition, the womens suffrage movement, the civil rights movement, a Black U.S. president who was initially against partial-birth abortion, non-white male faculty at their seminaries and now a theory that uncovers our nations de jure and de facto segregation. Earlier this month, Saddleback Church co-founders Rick Warren and his wife, Kay, named Andy Wood of Echo.Church in the San Francisco Bay Area with his wife, Stacie, as their successors, starting in September. The SBCs power structure wants to maintain white dominance. They are happy to have a Black chapel speaker, the occasional conservative Black professor whose classes are not taken seriously or a Black employee who never bucks against their notions of superiority. It's time for us to bring in new families. The two churches will remain separate, and he plans on preaching two sermons each Sunday. Have you ever dreamed of owning a home, but don't know where to begin? I had to fight all of my flesh not to just walk away. He shared a vision of revival. Its one thing to adore someone you dont have any personal relationship with. Pastor Dates challenged me in how I was handling my grief, noted my verbal and body language pointed to some unrighteous anger and unforgiveness that I needed to confront in order to move forward in a Godly manner, gave me scriptures to pray and meditate on, and concluded by praying with me and having his wife Kirstie follow up with me. I didnt say Pastor Dates was the ONLY person who could minister to me; I dont have anyone in my life like htat. View Charlie Dates' profile on LinkedIn, the world's largest professional community. How do Salem Baptist and Progressive Baptist compare, and what makes you a fit for both congregations at this moment? Saddleback Church doubles down on support for female pastors, Mormonisms slow shift away from demonizing working mothers, Faith leaders urge Biden to sign executive order for reparations study by Juneteenth, For many congregations, wiping out medical debt has become a popular calling. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Charlie Dates has been working as a Youngest Senior Pastor at Progressive Baptist Church for 12 years. Charlie Edward Dates became the youngest Senior Pastor in Progressive's rich 95-year history. So, I propose to you that we need a new organism, not led in full by white men; a Christian collective that makes room for the essentials of the faith and the diversity of the Church; a robust engine that finances the impoverished sides of the Church, speaks justice courageously to the government and cares gently for the oppressed, marginalized and women. This shaped his approach to preaching and his thoughts about the transformative role the Black church plays in bringing about the flourishing of a people.Dr. I had the privilege of not only hearing him preach as a guest speaker at my church, but also meeting him after a singles event hosted by Progressive. Charlie Dates is set to succeed Rev. Meeks, who plans to stay involved with Hope of House, Salems philanthropic organization, is one of the latest longtime U.S. church leaders to step down. Im just saying that at the juncture were in and being a son of the soil of Chicago and a son of Salem, and now having pastored Progressive, I just think I have a unique understanding and relational dynamic with both churches. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? And while Progressive is a large congregation (around 1000 members), it doesnt come close to Salem (which has about 10,000). For the second time in two days, a prominent Black pastor has publicly quit the Southern Baptist Convention over its seminary presidents' campaign against Critical Race Theory. Welcome to the weekly podcast of Progressive Baptist Church with Pastor and Author, Dr. Charlie Dates. Sarah Einselen is an award-winning writer and editor based in Texas. Theres just no way you can pastor a church that big being involved in all of the details, right? Now we have 2 churches thinking only one particular man can lead them. Here it was, I thought, further proof that the old SBC was fading. Pretty sure there were no consequences whatsoever for him over it. I dont even know what sort of issue Dates had with whoever (again, Im rarely on social media), but even I can spot your bias here. Weve already started the conversation that, at some point, the goal is to raise up leaders to do more work. Sure, there were more battles to be won before legitimate change would warm the hearts of African American churches like ours, but thats why our movement felt almost prophetic. You sure seem ready to defend Trump and do the we dont know whats in his heart, only God knows if hes saved song and dance when it comes to explaining away Trumps lack of repentance or remorse for such language. Martin L. King Jr. On the eve of the 50th anniversary of his assassination, it was as if they had come to reckon with the ghosts of their past and the theological underpinnings that ignored his ministry. Dates's 100-year-old congregation only began affiliating with the SBC last year, joining as a dual affiliate with the Progressive National Baptist Convention, a mainline, African American. Its not making me feel good; warm and fuzzy. Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago, under the leadership of Charlie E. Dates, is a. 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Dates explained he saw rejecting CRT as part of a continuing heritage of dangerous conservatism.. They are ready to see their young adopt the very vestiges of hate that enslaved us in the name of Gods authoritative word. While I do not know much about Charlie Dates, it has becoming increasingly true that the higher you rise the harder you fall. Progressive was around WAY before Charlie Dates; it was not founded or based on his teachings alone. Progressives buildings were built without a dime of debt at a time where Black people could not get a loan from a bank. . In the early discussion around the seminary presidents statement, which released last month, SBC president J. D. Greear recognized some of the issues with such emphasis on critical race theory (CRT) itself. Standing in the pulpit on Sunday at the House of, Feet splashed in puddles on a rainy Sunday afternoon as almost 1,000 people came together in Smyrna, a small town in Middle. Legal Clinic The Social Justice Ministry is here to help through our Gospel Justice Center Legal Clinic. I think the distinction is that I can serve Salem well by loving her through the preaching ministry and pastoral care, and she will follow. Charlie Dates is the senior pastor of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago. What challenges do you anticipate with the dynamic of pastoring two congregations? Hmm. Dates teaches at several universities and seminaries, including Wheaton College, and is popular on the speaking circuit. It is going to take an academic mind and a saved heart.". We want to walk with you and your family in every step of the way. SBC events and church planting have grown more diverse over the past decade as leaders made a concerted effort to feature and invest in non-Anglo pastors. . Rev. It does not store any personal data. Logos of the six Southern Baptist Convention seminaries. That was the old Southern Baptists, I promised them and others in our church. 99% of these megachurch icons and celebrities were nowhere near as righteous as Smith to start with, and only continue to deteriorate from that starting point, with time and fame. Progressive is a church of five generations. Charlie Dates Has Led Progressive Baptist To choose a successor Meeks says he and his wife, First Lady Jamell Meeks, prayed and fasted. How has God moved and worked in ones life? Our PBC Teens are highly engaged in biblical teaching and discussion on how to navigate a Christian life amongst their peers. Were living in a time where so many young people are walking away from the church and where church attendance numbers are in the dumps. Pastor Charlie Dates speaks at Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago. But what is liberal in the history of American Christianity? They would not. He announced in June that he will give his last sermon on January 8, 2023. I do know it is a debate in the Black community about using certain colorist or racially-charged terms against each other. Susan Robinson is a 100-year-old Black woman and lifelong member of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago, where I am senior . Get the most recent headlines and stories from Christianity Today delivered to your inbox daily. Pastor Charlie Dates of Progressive Baptist Church in Chicago lamented, "This is a very tiring conversation, not simply because of the events of recent weeks, but because this has been a 401-year . They are good men who are sending a big message to the SBC, said Marshal Ausberry. Neither am I saying that hes the only significant influence in my life. Last month, in a joint statement and individual remarks, the six presidents of SBC seminaries called critical race theory unbiblical and instead emphasized the need to turn to Christian teachings alone, not secular ideas, to confront racism. Well, the Stewardship Ministry at ProgressiveChicago is excited to partner with The YWCA and Liberty Bank to offer a 6 hour in-person or virtual homebuyer's workshop. And Saddleback Church founder Rick Warren is retiring this September. . I see the Pauline example in the Gospel of teachers/leaders being figures that we seek and respect for guidance and direction and boundaries, and not necessarily the same functions that friends and family (in or outside of the church) perform. How will your role there look different? Meeks, who is now 65 and served three terms as a state senator, told his congregation that he will preach his final sermon on Jan. 8, 2023, just five days before the church's 38th anniversary. Dr. Charlie Dates became the youngest senior pastor at Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago in 2011 at age 30 and in January 2023, he became the senior pastor of the Salem Baptist Church of Chicago. In op-eds announcing their decisions to leave, Charlie Dates of Chicagos Progressive Baptist Church and Ralph D. West of Houstons The Church Without Walls both criticized SBC seminary presidents declaration that critical race theory was incompatible with the denominations statement of faith. How do you use that significance, and history of these two churches in the city, to drive the future? Meeks, 65, founded Salem in 1985 and grew it from 200 to 10,000 members. The resistance, especially from some of our elderly membership, was swift and sincere. Progressive Baptist Church is part of the Organizations industry, and located in Illinois, United States. I dont know anything about Pastor Dates using a slur I havent heard anything about it, nor do I know anything about the context, response, or outcomes. From your posts (especially the prior one to this), it almost seems like your biggest qualification for a pastor is whether he or she makes you feel good; warm and fuzzy. Im working to discern Gods direction as it relates to timing of when to conclude. 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I dont see anything wrong with loving those who Christ calls us to love, which includes our brothers and sisters in Christ (that includes pastors). Dates, 41, is senior pastor of Progressive Baptist Churcha position hell keep, despite assuming the pastorate at Salem. These cookies help provide information on metrics the number of visitors, bounce rate, traffic source, etc. In 2006, he began serving as the primary . The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. In 2011, at age 30, he became the youngest Senior Pastor in Progressive's rich 99-year history. Salem Baptist is one of several megachurches whose pastors are passing the baton. I wonder how many of them provide full time paychecks. But he added God is extending our platform and our reach to the point where Ill be able to provide pastoral leadership for both churches. Its a sensitive time for both congregations, and I want to convey as they read this my love for both of them. Before his call to Progressive, he served as an apprentice pastor at New Zion Baptist Church in Rockford, Illinois, and as a pastor at Salem Baptist Church in Chicago. I understand both sides, but havent thought about it enough to have a strong opinion, probably because I dont use those terms. James Meeks next year as senior pastor of Salem Baptist Churchone of Chicagos biggest megachurches. I was shocked, but not surprised, when Mohler endorsed President Trump and watched the two men on Reformation Day celebrate each other on Twitter. That was the last straw for Dates, he wrote in a column for Religion News Service. I respect the importance of Christian denominations, the accountability and resources they provide for the larger body. Perhaps I need to know whats defined as a megachurch? Meeks, a former state senator, founded Salem Baptist 38 years ago. I believe now that the time has come for me to yield to a younger person.. Get the most recent headlines and stories from Christianity Today delivered to your inbox daily. Thats the old SBC. These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. Religion News Service reported that Fred Luter, the only black SBC president, signed on in agreement. He is married to Kirstie Dates and is the proud father of their children, Charlie Edward Dates II & Claire Dates. A graduate of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and adjunct at Baylor Universitys Truett Theological Seminary, West said he planned to withdraw from his current doctoral studies at Southwestern and will not associate with the SBC any longer. Charlie Dates serves as the senior pastor at Progressive Baptist Church and teaches at Moody Bible Institute as an adjunct professor. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. Charlie served as an apprentice to Pastor K. Edward Copeland and started his formal, practical training at the New Zion Baptist Church of Rockford, Illinois. Charlie earned an M.Div. Charlie E. Dates was presented to the church in February 2011. Meeks, a former state senator, founded Salem Baptist 38 years ago. Rev. Photo courtesy of Charlie Dates. Thats the good ol boys club. Dates preaches at the 2019 African American Preaching Conference. The backstage conversations at these gatherings promised a new era of advancement on race and theology. Do you know what I mean by ministering to me? Yesterday, Charlie Dates, the Senior Pastor at Chicago's Progressive Baptist Church, gave a powerful biblical message addressing the recent killings of Auhmad Aubrey, Breonna Taylor, and George Floyd. Its humorous, its rewarding, and its worth more than the price of gold or platinum. By clicking Accept All, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. I took President Adam Greenways invitation to return as a statement of good faith, that the seminary wanted to welcome me and many other Black ministers to contribute to its legacy, he wrote. But there is nothing wrong with loving those who I do have personal relationships with, and have really left an impact on my faith, family, and heart.. 3658 SOUTH WENTWORTH AVENUE, CHICAGO, IL, 60609, 773-268-6048 | INFO@PROGRESSIVECHICAGO.ORG. Not because of a sermon I heard from a distance or book that I read. How has he influenced you? Dr. Charlie Dates is widely invited to preach at churches, conferences and universities throughout the United States. I left that conference feeling hopeful. Neither is it a premeditated desire of mine. Progressive Baptist Church of Chicago Pastor: Dr. Charlie E. Dates Website: www.progressivechicago.org Giving/Donations: https://progressivechicago.org/give IG: After the neighborhood went dry, Walmart opened a store. What is liberalism to the conservative Southern Baptists? These churches are a gift. Ill be here every Sunday and through the week as I normally am, Dates said.
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